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What does it mean to look or live like a conservative woman today? Alex Clark and Raquel Debono have completely different answers. Fox News Digital spoke with both women separately, about how the Right can better connect with young women voters and how competing ideas of modern feminism are shaping the movement. It is important to note that Debono and Clark do not directly respond to each other’s claims in interviews.
Debono is Canadian and has lived in America for 10 years. He is currently in the process of becoming a US citizen while living in New York City. He is the organizer of “Make America Hot Again” and throws parties around town to help like-minded people get together.
Debono believes the GOP should be a “big tent.”
“We should be expanding our tent, not closing it,” said Debono. She pointed out that young, career-oriented women should feel welcome rather than judged.
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“We will lose the next election if we continue to expel young women who keep morals in the tent,” he added.
Clark, who hosts the health and wellness podcast “Culture Apothecary” with Turning Point USA, takes the opposite view.
“I don’t think we should be a big tent. Some others don’t agree with that. You know, we just have to accept anybody and everybody in the reserve. And I think if we want to preserve anything that is traditional at least, or you know, the values of this country were established, so I don’t think we can do that,” he told Fox News Digital.
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Debono shared that he likes to call himself “Sex and the City.”
“We dress well, we are cool, we like to go out and have fun,” said Debono. She pointed out that relevance and modern beauty can bring many young women into the fold.
Clark argued, “I think if you just say, ‘Hey, we’re going to let anybody call themselves conservative, even if they don’t represent one iota of conservative values,’ I think that hurts us as an organization.”
Debono expressed concern that women are afraid of the Republican Party pushing a “commercial” agenda.
“By working so hard on this whole trade show, you’re driving away a lot of young women who would have been Republicans,” she told Fox News Digital. “And that’s what scares me. And the thing is, if we lose women completely, we lose the election, and that’s what matters most.”
Clark expressed the need to fight for “western values” and preserve the American family.
He pointed out that there is a difference between being a Republican and being a conservative.
Alex Clark is the host of “Culture Apothecary,” a podcast focused on health and wellness, powered by Turning Point USA. (Turning Point USA)
“If they don’t agree on gay marriage, for example, or they don’t agree on IVF, and they still want to vote Republican on the ticket, sure, anybody can vote Republican if they want to,” he said. “But what I’m fighting for is you can’t say you’re a conservative, because Republican and conservative are completely different things.”
Debono expressed that he wishes for marriage and children, but believes it is important to wait for the right person and expressed concern about messages on this issue from some in the conservation meeting.
Debono said, “I think in the conservative movement, to some extent, you know, we’re really pushed into marriage a lot of times, but it’s not really the right partner.”
Clark said falling for the girl’s boss was traumatizing for the women.
“In order to be successful as women, you can postpone having a family for as long as you want,” she said. “You will always be able to get pregnant with IVF. By the way, that’s a complete lie. IVF is not a guarantee. So many women are hurt by those lies and hurt because they waited so long to have a family.”
However, Clark added, “I’m not talking about single people, not by choice, because sometimes times are different than others, but I’m talking about choosing that on purpose to pursue work and put family behind.”
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Debono said, “The thing is, you also have to include those other women who, you know, want that. They really want that life at the end, but they haven’t found it yet. And instead of, you know, kicking them out of the party, tell them to come in, you’re welcome here, and let’s grow a tent.”
Clark acknowledged the current fracture in the GOP.
“Should we be talking about the ethics of IVF mass reproduction? You know, should that be a valid conversation? Is it okay to disagree with President Trump on that issue and call him out?” he asked.
“The thing is, everyone is allowed to think differently. As with everything, as Republicans, we shouldn’t judge people by their opinions,” said Debono.
Debono noted that there are Republican women who support IVF and said that it is not immoral to freeze eggs.
“Have you ever taken a biology class? Because there is no abortion, OK!” he said.
In terms of who should or shouldn’t be portrayed as a conservative, Debono said, “You act like liberals, that’s when we scare Republicans.”
Clark argued that the GOP should not try to appeal to the middle class to win over young women.
“Truth and time go hand in hand. We’ve given these 75-plus-year-old progressive ideas to be listened to, tested, and we’ve never been less happy, and the American family has never been more broken.”
Debono said, “Preaching like this lifestyle that keeps milk on a floating farm, which looks great, but who’s going to pay my rent? Because my bills have to be paid. So if you’d like to pay them, that’s great. But ’til then I have to work hard for what I want.”
Clark argued that it is important for conservatives to “hold the line,” saying that progressives are not trying to move to the center.
“We have to hold the line and not move by inches,” he said. “They don’t hold back either.”
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Alba Cuebas-Fantauzzi of Fox News contributed to this report.
